past and future

[minoanmiss]

I drank 2 glasses of wine before TL took the bottle from me so I'm certain I'm perfectly sober.

It is such a good thing that I deleted my LJ, or I would have such a hard time not going back to people I fought with in 2001 over hobbitslash or 2009 over Uhura or 2016 over Trump and saying "SO WHAT DO YOU THINK NOW HUH HUH HUH"

After the most recent iteration of some child saying "keep your sexual shit off Pride" I immediately tossed them in the kill file before I could succumb to the temptation to PM them a suggestion to go join their local Pride planning committee and suggest this to them. But I am so tempted to write and queue a post for January saying "so, hey, everyone who wants nothing sexual at Pride, have you joined your local Pride planning committees yet? Have you given them your plan for banning sexuality at Pride, with ideas for enforcement and penalties? How's it going?"

I shouldn't, right?

Comments

[sabotabby]

I assume anyone who doesn't want sex at Pride is a 4chan troll or a child who never leaves the house.

[kore]

(I'm getting flashbacks to "But the kiss-ins upset the people you want on your side!", lolsob)

[dewline]

That seems accurate.

[dine]

you probably shouldn't, but I can definitely see the appeal! I don't hang about anywhere I'd likely see that sort of thing, but I hear enough reports that I'm left seriously shaking my head at the rampant ignorance/trolling

[kore]

So tempting! But no.

I am old enough I remember when Pride parades were often a mix of "We're here, we're queer, fuck you" and some decidedly R-rated fetish demos. I know it's gotten very corporate, but bland desexed Pride? What?

[sovay]

I know it's gotten very corporate, but bland desexed Pride? What?

NOT GAY AS IN HAPPY.

[redbird]

Someone is always wrong on the Internet.

There are people worth arguing with, but it's rarely worth arguing with strangers who are saying things that upset you: they would be unlikely to listen to what you said.

[princessofgeeks]

+1

[sovay]

I shouldn't, right?

Probably not, but then you deserve kudos for resisting it.

[anna_wing]

Arguing with other writers/readers about what you/they want to write and how you/they want to write it is always a waste of time, so you are quite right not to want to revisit said arguments.

I've been lucky, on LJ I think I only once ran into someone who tried to bring up 'fanon' interpretations in arguing why they disagreed with my version of Eowyn. As if I cared or should care.

[oracne]

They are all ignorant losers!

[julian]

I don't mind leather stuff at Pride, or furry stuff, or whatever. (I mean, that is, I like, enjoy, and welcome it.) If my hypothetical kid (or extant nephew) were to see them and ask about them, I'd basically just go, "They love each other, and they like to dress that way to show it," or something. It's really not hard to explain things that way. And even if they ask more detailed stuff, you really *can* explain it in appropriate-for-kids fashion. And it's not like kids don't get that there *is* love and sex, after age like, 3. (I tend to think babies or able-to-walk-for-the-parade-length kids are fine for Pride; Toddlers less so just because they're more prone to meltdowns and that sucks for the family.)

I do somewhat a little have minor qualms with actual nudity and/or simulated sex at the actual Pride parade, given its current nature, but I certainly wouldn't frickin' bar it, and I don't remember seeing any nudity anyway, even 15 years ago. Like, topless people, sure, but that's different. There was and is still some simulated whatever on occasional floats, and some dancing in erotic manners, but a) you can distract your kid with Another Thing if you're that freaked, and b) you can still explain it in appropriate-to-them fashion.

And I mean, the post-parade parties/events *are not the parade*, so that's a different kettle of fish.

[acequeenking]

It makes me high-key sad how quickly we went to "LGBT Acceptance in America is just barely accomplished!" to immediately gatekeeping who can go to lgbt+ events, who can be in the community, etc.