Snowflake Challenge #7: Wishlist

[minoanmiss]

OKay, I'm going to do this. I'm going to ask for three fanfic recommendations.

1) A fic under 15K about MCU Sam Wilson/Bucky Barnes. Specifically the theme of the fic is that Sam and Bucky each consider the other Steve's widower and mutual attempted comfort leads to porn and romance.

I'm not going to specify fandom for the other two. I can investigate canons if I need to, at least to wiki-level.

2) A fic under 15K about a happy threesome.

3) A fic under 50K where a happy threesome has an adventure together and at no point in the adventure do they have relationship agitas: they all remain utterly devoted to each other. Lots of other troubles can assail them but I don't want relationship troubles.

Thank you in advance.

Comments

[mekare]

What sort of ratings are you looking for in #2?

ETA: If you‘re fine with E (or that was what you were asking for) check out this lovely Ilya/Gaby/Napoleon fic.. I reread it to make sure it was happy!

Same pairing, slightly different flavour: here.

[minoanmiss]

I always appreciate competently written smut. Eee, thank you so much for reccing me this!

[mekare]

I hope you enjoyed them! I also found a Spock/Uhura/Kirk fic, but saw in the comments that you‘ve already read that one,

[minoanmiss]

Tell me anyway. :)

[mekare]

Okay, here. I also checked my bookmarks, but none of my Bucky/Sam fics fit your description. Also a lot of them were Steve/Sam/Bucky in actuality. I do know that those kind of fics exist damnit, it‘s just been too long since I‘ve regularly read in MCU fandom.

[minoanmiss]

I would LOVE recs to Bucky/Sam/Steve!

Also, that link went to an awesome portrait of Philippa and kitty.

Also, thank you a lot. :)

ETa Maybe I should just rummage your bookmarks, ahahahah. May I have the link?

[mekare]

I needed to check because at one point I started making bookmarks private. The MCU ones are public though: here.

ETA: And here's the correct one for the Spock/Nyota/Jim!

[minoanmiss]

Thank you doubly, brighteyes!

[princessofgeeks]

You may have read these already but I wrote several happy threesomes (and a couple of happy foursomes) in Stargate SG-1. Or if it's not your thing, no prob!

[minoanmiss]

I am quite sure I read them but I would probably enjoy rereading them come to think. beams

[amateurmonastic]

You've already read the fic I wrote that fits your parameters *g*

[minoanmiss]

It made me want more! :D

ot3 fic rec!

[catgiri]

i can recommend my favorite polyamory fic for #2!

you might be unfamiliar with the fandom, but i feel like it's pretty easy to read fandom blind since its fully a modern au

Re: ot3 fic rec!

[minoanmiss]

Oh my goodness, thank you so much!

[full_metal_ox]

For #3: Are you up for some urban fantasy Wuxia original fic? (This is intended as a kinda sorta Fix Fic for Mo Dao Zu Shi; the author has headcast the three main characters as Wang Yizhou, Liu Haikuan, and Zhu Zanjin: the actors who played Nie Mingjue, Lan Xichen, and Jin Guangyao respectively in The Untamed, and there’s also obvious homage to Zhen Hun/Guardian, He Shen/Tientsin Mystic, and Daomu Biji/The Grave Robbers’ Chronicles; figure that it’s the Babbit’s imaginary C-drama.) The story deals with the adventure that formed their relationship, with cute familiars playing Cupid. Note that the setting is an invented world, in a culture where queer and polyamorous unions are legal and face no stigma.)

It’s slightly over the length you want, at 55,916 words; also note that one of the heroes is a cop, and that it features overbearing elder relatives and graphic unethical animal experimentation (which the heroes are there to fight; one of them is sort of a magical Doctor Doolittle.)

Odd Crimes and Misdemeanors, by JustAWanderingBabbit: https://archiveofourown.org/works/33676741/chapters/83694025

[minoanmiss]

I will delightedly keep this in my back pocket for days with longer gaps.

[hitchhiker]

#3 sounds great! reminds me of the vibe in agatha christie's "tommy and tuppence" novels, where the protagonists are just young and joyful and happily married and having the time of their life solving crimes together.

[minoanmiss]

That sounds really cute! All I know of them comes from an adaptation I watched that was a little grim. I should probably resort to the books themselves.

[caitri]

re: happy threesome recs: This tag by this author: https://archiveofourown.org/tags/Aiden*s*Lambert%20(The%20Witcher)*s*Milena%20de%20Roggeven%20(Accidental%20Warlord%20Series%20-%20inexplicifics)/works

[minoanmiss]

Thank you so much, bb!

I totally wasn't expecting this glorious response to my impertinent request! (I do hope I get that Sam/Bucky tho)

[caitri]

I ALSO hope you get the Sam/Bucky because I'd like to read it!!

[flamingsword]

OMG thank you!! I had no idea that tag existed!

[caitri]

:D

[acelightning73]

I'm not a member of any particular fandom, except Star Trek (and not the newer versions - I don't get those cable channels, we only pay for enough channels to get cable internet.) I don't know who Sam and Buck and Steve are, and I don't know any fictional world with a threesome in it. Well, there's a really weirdly complicated one in Seanan McGuire's world, involving a shapeshifter, and the other two are royalty.

[full_metal_ox]

Sam (Wilson), Bucky (Barnes), and Steve (Rogers) are Falcon, Winter Soldier, and Captain America respectively from the Marvel superhero movies.

[acelightning73]

The only Marvel movies I've seen are Wonder Woman and Black Panther. And I haven't read comic books since I left middle school. (I always felt that real books were more fun than comic books.) "Oh, you mustn't read comic books - they'll rot your brain." (Except for Classic Comics, making the Odyssey or Shakespeare simple enough for those who considered reading a form of punishment.) I don't need pictures - I know how to read words.

[flamingsword]

It’s considered a bit rude to yuck on other folk’s yum. Just an FYI.

[acelightning73]

I only meant to explain why I was unfamiliar with the genre.

When I was a child, adults would forbid comic books, in a belief that they would keep children from reading real books, and that comic books were "immoral" and would harm a child's mind in other ways. Think of today's belief that smart phones and the internet itself should be forbidden to children. In the early 1950s it was television and comic books that were considered toxic, and parents and schoolteachers would take away a child's comic books and throw them in the trash, and a common "punishment" for having had a comic book might involve not being allowed to watch TV for a week. So I didn't get very much exposure to the worlds of comic books. You don't want to know what they told us would happen if we listened to rock and roll music.

[flamingsword]

“I don't need pictures - I know how to read words.”

Maybe imagine that you’re one of the comic book fans who has been told for years that you are basically illiterate and that you are what’s wrong with the youth of America, and then re-read that sentence for implied tone? I’m just saying.

You seem intelligent enough to think about things from other points of view. But the way you’re communicating is implying judgments and condemnation that you say you’re not making, so something is not getting communicated properly. Just give it some thought, okay?

[acelightning73]

I was bullied for reading BOOKS for enjoyment, because none of my schoolmates could imagine how a page full of printed words could be enjoyable. That was why they read comic books. "WHY don't you read comic books full of pictures, like a NORMAL kid? Stop carrying those heavy books around, because they're not textbooks required for school.". And the teachers would rip a comic book out of a kid's hands and throw it in the trash or tear it to pieces. "Stop reading that trash - if you grow up illiterate, you'll never be able to earn a living." So teachers were pleased that I didn't hate books, which made other kids hate me more for being "teacher's pet". And I didn't WANT to read comic books. Superman and Batman and Green Arrow were all male, and the few female role models made it clear that a fat girl with glasses could never have super-powers. So I avoided comic books so I wouldn't get into trouble. The YA books with atomic-rocket-ship SF logos on the spine were a whole lot more appealing to me. They got me bullied more than other books, but at least teachers didn't rip them out of my hands. And I reached adulthood with no context for Marvel Super-Heroes. So I wanted to explain why and how that happened.

[flamingsword]

Speaking as a former small-fat kid who loved books and comics alike: bullies don’t care what we’re reading. They care that we’re paying attention to other things than them. And I’m sorry that we have this in common, but if you’re old enough to have grown up before there were fat superheroes in comics, then you’re old enough to work on not putting the judgments from your past into the language that you’re still using now. You’re making other people feel judged, and I don’t think that’s what you want to be doing.

Please admit that even if you did not intend to communicate that, that that’s how your words came across, and take steps to mitigate that in the future.

[acelightning73]

I was quoting the criticisms I heard from my schoolmates and teachers. All superheroes were lithe and athletic and Caucasian (and super strong and fast and they could fly). I was born in 1947, when TV, comic books, and rock'n'roll and jazz were blamed for juvenile delinquency, poor school grades, and kids sneaking cigarettes. I tried to clarify that these were remarks that were addressed to me, not my own feelings about the entertainments my schoolmates favored. (My feelings were, "Those things don't interest me at all, and why would I bother looking at themm when there's a new Heinlein or Norton or Asimov juvenile novel on the YA shelf?)

I think I need to place the explanations before the descriptions of how the people around me reacted to the "bad habits" of young people. I was two years younger than the rest of my grade in school, and usually outperformed them in academics. And how can a girl be smarter than the boys? So they'd wait until I was leaving the school grounds to walk home, and waylay me and administer pummelings that hurt like hell, but somehow left no bruises. And when I complained to adults, their answer was, "Why are you telling such terrible lies about these fine young men?" I was about eleven, and they were mostly around 13, and into their adolescent growth spurt. I was just a chubby but physically "weedy" little girl who kept trying to use intelligence to evade the bullies. No such luck.

[flamingsword]

Okay, try number three:

Who were you quoting when you said the (ableist and judgmental) sentence, “I don't need pictures - I know how to read words”? Because if you were not quoting anyone, then you were, it seems, projecting your judgments about other people’s abilities. I’m sorry you grew up in a time period that had even more regressive attitudes than current. But you said a thing that hurt my feelings, and you’re implying that it’s okay for you to do so because … why exactly? Because you were hurt when you were little, and so you now cannot hear someone saying that you have done a thing which hurts others?

I’m being as respectful as I know how to about this, but you have ducked any accountability for your casting judgments on other people multiple times now. Please stop trying to weasel your way out of being responsible for your own words. If you’re as old as you state, then you should know how to take responsibility for the things you say. You are doing things capable of making other people feel bad, in the social space of someone I consider a friend, and it’s starting to make me wonder if you’re not an emotionally safe person to be around.

So I’m going to ask you a final time to give it some thought, this time without the “I’m a Good person therefore nothing I do is Bad” goggles you seem to have been wearing over your glasses, if your previous post is any indication. We’re all capable of being judgmental, so I don’t think you are some uniquely terrible person. I’m not even asking you to care about my feelings enough to work up a half-hearted apology. But you are in someone else’s social space, stepping on toes. Maybe save being judgmental about people you don’t know for your own journal?

[acelightning73]

I apologize (whole-heartedly) for expressing myself in ways that hurt you. I had been taunted with the statement that reading books full of words without pictures was abnormal and weird, and they had to beat the weirdness out of me because they didn't want weirdos in their school. So if they could force me to read nothing but comic books because they thought only comic books were acceptable reading, I wouldn't be a threat to them. I did try to phrase my remarks as an explanation of why I never experienced that form of fiction, and you are free to ask me why I didn't start reading comic books as an adult.

Another person asked me to stop describing why I violently dislike certain foods, and asked me to describe eating something I enjoyed. I did that in my own journal https://acelightning73.dreamwidth.org/41034.html. I'll try to apply the same principle to other aspects of human experience.

[flamingsword]

Thank you.

[acelightning73]

Peace beween us?

[flamingsword]

Yeah, I'm cool sharing space with anyone who can take accountability for their words and actions. I just needed you to acknowledge that you were having unintended consequences for your actions.

[acelightning73]

Given how I was considered a "weirdo", I didn't get socialized much. When I mentioned to an adult that the boys were picking on me for my unacceptably weird behavior, one adult said, "Why can't you just try to act NORMAL?" Well, when I did, it failed utterly. It wasn't at all convincing. If I said "I can't wait to get home and turn on the TV", the response was "Bullshit. You want to read one of your silly science fiction books. Shut up and stop telling us lies. Only boys are allowed to read science fiction, because girls aren't able to understand complicated stuff like science." I just couldn't fake "normal" behavior because I'd never learned it well enough to begin with.

I survived because when I went to college, the whole hippie thing was happening, and it was a social ASSET to be a weirdo. Sex and drugs and rock'n'roll helped me to stay alive. I was very good at being weird, in my tie-dyed bell bottoms and my beaded headband and braids.

[flamingsword]

I’m going to link you to a thing I’d like you to take, that I think might help you understand why “normal” people were such assholes to you, okay?

https://embrace-autism.com/raads-r/
(Sorry about the pejorative language, this was written by “neurotypical” people)

If you’re like me, and you could fake being normal enough to avoid diagnosis, this might help you. There is community for us among other oddballs, and it is a consolation to know that we are perfectly normal zebras and not failed horses.

[acelightning73]

I'm not going to post my scores. The school psychologist was the one who told me to just "act normal", although I could no more do that than I could fly over the school building by flapping my ears.

My son is a clinical psychologist, and he was put in a school for "children with behavior problems". He became a psychologist because of the horrible ways the school's psychologists treated the students; if he went into the profession, he could make sure there was at least one professional around who knew how to do it right.

I once took a test that displayed one's psychologica traits as a polygon, and I showed up as "the opposite of autistic". But I found that I have an ability to explain things that autistic people have trouble understanding, I can translate easily from "normie" to "aspie", and often vice versa.

Of course, autism often appears very different in women. And all the things I was interested in as a child were unacceptable interest for litle girls. I taught myself to get very good at them, and wound up being one of the first female radio (broadcasting) technicians in New York City afterthe men all came back from the war and the "rosie the riveters" who had done "men's work" were let go. But it never occurred to me to want to turn into a boy; I just didn't see any logic in assigning certain tasks by gender. And they always told me "women are only good at nurturing activities, like cooking, housework, nursing, teaching kindergarten. Women's brains can't understand any machines more complicated than a food mixer or a hair dryer, and they make stupid mistakes while driving because it's too technical for them. I wanted to grow up to be an astronaut, but that, of course, was unthinkable. How could a weak, silly, emotionally-driven, technically-inept female ever fly a spaceship?

So I was not really a proper human being, nor a proper female. As I grew up, I just figured out I didn't have to be those things, I just decided to get good at being ME.