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I am going to finish the whole list eventually.

so [personal profile] acelightning73 asked me: " How would a Jamaican prepare and cook a large bird like a capon or turkey, or even a duck or a goose? What are some favorite Jamaican dishes"

How would a Jamaican prepare and cook a large bird? Fricasee that bird in parts.

Most of the birds I ate as a child, especially for celebrations, had been cut up and braised in a highly spiced oniony sauce. That's a much quicker and more even way of cooking a bird than roasting it. I especially remember my 16th birthday duck which my mother cut up and cooked this way (and getting scolded for taking a second helping because life was like that). I admit to this day some scorn towards the traditional dry-breasted whole-roasted Thanksgiving turkey. I'll do it because people expect it, but I'd rather fricasee the thing.

Maybe one day I'll ask my mother how she learned to cut up poultry, since according to my father and my aunts she didn't like to cook as a girl. She didn't teach me how. Martin Yan did.

Another Jamaican dish she made when she was in an indulgent mood were "stamp and go" (though she never called them that), dried-and-reconstituted codfish fritters with chopped tomato, green onions, and thyme, and sometimes a *bit* of habanero. I keep meaning to try to make those again but salt cod is expensive these days. Jamaicans like frying starch a lot -- I do occasionally make fried dumplings, just little biscuit-like wodges of pan fried dough. And then there are festivals, a deep fried variant including cornmeal and sugar. Both go so well with the prince of Jamaican dishes, ackee and saltfish (a savory tropical fruit and the once-ubitiquous salt cod).

Date: 2025-01-08 02:01 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] bikergeek
Maybe one day I'll ask my mother how she learned to cut up poultry

That would entail talking to your mother.

Date: 2025-01-08 07:13 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] dissectionist
Though it seems like if you HAVE to talk to her, that would be an excellent redirection to eat up time before you can get off the call. She can’t dig for your life details while explaining culinary techniques.

Date: 2025-01-08 02:44 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] acelightning73
My turkey breast is never dry, because I buy a rolled breast (for two servings) and brine it before I cook it. And some people like dark meat, so I sometimes get the smallest whole turkey I can find, and I brine that also.

I'd love to know more about festivals, what they are and why you eat them and how to make them.

Date: 2025-01-09 07:49 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] acelightning73
Sounds a bit like the muffins I made for Thanksgiving - white flour, cornmeal, and very slightly sweet - went really well with turkey and gravy. I'll see if I can find a recipe online. They sound vaguely similar to churros or crullers. I think I posted the recipe for the muffins - would it be similar if I just cut the dough into strips and fried it? Maybe sprinkle them with cinnamon sugar?

Date: 2025-01-09 09:39 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ororo
Yes! I have tried festival and quite liked it.

Date: 2025-01-09 09:53 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] acelightning73
Is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Festival_%28food%29
correct? I can't find a recipe.

Here's the recipe I made instead of butter-dipped rolls this past Thanksgivinghttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Festival_%28food%29

If I made that batter thick enough to roll or pat out, and cut it into little strips, would it be close?

Date: 2025-01-10 05:09 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] acelightning73
SHould I use more white flour or more cornmeal to make the dough stiffer?

Date: 2025-01-10 05:29 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] full_metal_ox
And, comes to that, what gluten level wheat flour does the recipe call for?

Date: 2025-01-10 05:33 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] acelightning73
"All-purpose white flour", which has a medium level. I add extra vital wheat gluten to my bread recipe.

Date: 2025-01-10 09:09 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] acelightning73
That will be easy enough to do. Once they're cooked, do you dip them in anything? Or just let them absorb the pan juices from the spicy main dish? I'd be tempted to treat them like churros - dipped in caramel or chocolate sauce to snack on. And when I went to the movies, the concession stand had churros, but they were out of the caramel sauce, and the only other sauce was cheese, and I don't think cheese goes with the sweet fried churros. So I just got popcorn, with none of that petroleum by-product they call "butter for popcorn". Or do you break open the festival and butter them like biscuits? (I come from a long line of women who excelled at baking bread and baking-powder biscuits and pie crust.) I'm really looking forward to making them, although last night baking a cake exhausted me so much I got sick. (I baked a cake that takes a long time in the oven, so the kitchen would get warm despite the house being porous and inadequately insulated, and the furnace just can't keep up.

I know that trying to heat the house with the oven is unsafe, and can break the oven. I just wanted one room in the house to be a warm place to retreat to. And at night I piled on the bed covers and retreated into a warm burrow.
Edited Date: 2025-01-10 09:17 pm (UTC)

Date: 2025-01-10 09:23 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] acelightning73
I do like tostones. This close to NYC I can find plenty of restaurants that serve them, and in the city it was very easy. There is a style of cuisine called Cuban-CHinese, and in the Bronx there was a "Comidas Chinas Y Criollas" place. They called "chicken nuggets" "cracklins" (which is inaccurate), but with a plateful of a pile of nuggets and a pile of tostones, with the homemade flan for dessert, I was happy.

Date: 2025-01-08 10:39 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lunabee34
That all sounds so so good.

Date: 2025-01-09 10:32 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lunabee34
I get that. :)

Date: 2025-01-10 05:31 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] full_metal_ox
The Six Degrees of Jamaica.

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