I made this as my contribution to Thanksgiving dinner this year.
I like the idea of Waldorf salad. A fruity, slightly sweet, fresh counterpoint to the longer-cooked dishes; both turkey and ham, common Thanksgiving centerpieces, work well with sweet accompaniments. But I don't always like the reality. Having mayonnaise be the first thing to hit the tongue gets cloying, and that's if the diner even likes mayonnaise -- many people don't. Walnuts can be bitter and allergenic. And so on.
So I made a few changes.
2 crisp apples, unpeeled, cut into 1 inch dice
1 cup celery, cut into 1/2 inch dice
1 starfruit, kiwifruit, or jicama, or other juicy culinary* fruit, cut into 1 inch dice [cut the jicama into 1/2 inch dice and only use 1 cup of it]
2 clementines/mandarins, unpeeled**, cut into 1/2 inch dice
1 cup dried cranberries, sweetened or unsweetened as you prefer
1/2 cup hemp seeds, shells removed (do not purchase hemp seeds with shells still on, those are for feeding cockatiels)
1/4 tsp salt
1 tbsp honey
1/2 tsp grated ginger (or more if desired)
1/2 tsp grated lemon zest and 1 tbsp lemon juice from one lemon
1 cup sour cream, optional, plus 2 tbsp honey if using
Having cut up all the fruit & celery, toss all ingredients together in a large bowl, cover and refrigerate until serving.
*: I know a jicama is not a botanical fruit. But it is a culinary one.
** If you have to substitute an orange, zest the whole thing, peel it, and omit the lemon zest. Use the orange zest and flesh in the recipe. Clementines, mandarins, etc, have thin skins with no bitter white pith (albedo) so they can be chopped whole. Oranges' skin is too thick to be used that way, IMO, anyway.
I like the idea of Waldorf salad. A fruity, slightly sweet, fresh counterpoint to the longer-cooked dishes; both turkey and ham, common Thanksgiving centerpieces, work well with sweet accompaniments. But I don't always like the reality. Having mayonnaise be the first thing to hit the tongue gets cloying, and that's if the diner even likes mayonnaise -- many people don't. Walnuts can be bitter and allergenic. And so on.
So I made a few changes.
2 crisp apples, unpeeled, cut into 1 inch dice
1 cup celery, cut into 1/2 inch dice
1 starfruit, kiwifruit, or jicama, or other juicy culinary* fruit, cut into 1 inch dice [cut the jicama into 1/2 inch dice and only use 1 cup of it]
2 clementines/mandarins, unpeeled**, cut into 1/2 inch dice
1 cup dried cranberries, sweetened or unsweetened as you prefer
1/2 cup hemp seeds, shells removed (do not purchase hemp seeds with shells still on, those are for feeding cockatiels)
1/4 tsp salt
1 tbsp honey
1/2 tsp grated ginger (or more if desired)
1/2 tsp grated lemon zest and 1 tbsp lemon juice from one lemon
1 cup sour cream, optional, plus 2 tbsp honey if using
Having cut up all the fruit & celery, toss all ingredients together in a large bowl, cover and refrigerate until serving.
*: I know a jicama is not a botanical fruit. But it is a culinary one.
** If you have to substitute an orange, zest the whole thing, peel it, and omit the lemon zest. Use the orange zest and flesh in the recipe. Clementines, mandarins, etc, have thin skins with no bitter white pith (albedo) so they can be chopped whole. Oranges' skin is too thick to be used that way, IMO, anyway.
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Date: 2024-11-29 02:11 am (UTC)Ooh, this sounds nice!
(I did not know that you could chop up clementines/mandarins, peels and all.)
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Date: 2024-11-29 03:13 am (UTC)IIRC, Most easy to peel citrus types got that way by being bred to minimize the albedo (the bitter white layer, which attaches the zest to the fruit flesh), and the albedo and seeds are the main parts of the citrus to avoid eating. So something without either, like clementines, can be eaten whole or chopped up whole.
(I love clementines. I eat them whole, peel and all.) (Because of someone Awesome whom I am fortunate to know I am looking forward to probably getting a box of Satsumas this winter. Woot Woot!)
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Date: 2024-11-29 03:20 am (UTC)Woot! :-)
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Date: 2024-11-29 07:39 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2024-11-29 02:01 pm (UTC)Well good!
You, WD, and RK are all in agreement on mayonnaise, ahahaha.
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Date: 2024-11-29 11:37 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2024-11-29 07:53 am (UTC)P.
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Date: 2024-11-29 02:04 pm (UTC)It was pretty refreshing. I was pleased. :)
You can always put the mayo back in! (Just remove the sour cream so the salad's not overdressed)
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Date: 2024-11-29 10:17 am (UTC)This sounds really good.
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Date: 2024-11-29 02:04 pm (UTC)beams I hope you make this and like it. I enjoy figuring out substitutions -- it's like a game we can all win!
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Date: 2024-11-29 01:32 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2024-11-29 02:03 pm (UTC)I think kohlrabi would clash with the fruit. Melon would probably work but it wouldn't store well.
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Date: 2024-11-29 04:57 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2024-11-30 03:36 am (UTC)OH you're RIGHT! Asian pear would be perfect! (I like jicama -- it's like water chestnut but a bit sweeter, yes -- and so do the people of China, who are apparently growing it in enthusiastically increasing acreage).
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Date: 2024-11-29 02:05 pm (UTC)takes notes
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Date: 2024-11-29 05:04 pm (UTC)*: I know a jicama is not a botanical fruit. But it is a culinary one.
Like rhubarb?
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Date: 2024-11-30 03:39 am (UTC)Heh, I called it "Naked" because I didn't end up using the dressing either.
Non-botanical culinary fruits sound off! Rhubarb, jicama, sugarcane ... what else? I should make that a journal entry as well.
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Date: 2024-11-30 04:48 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2024-11-30 04:45 pm (UTC)oh yes, lots and lots of those. We are definitely fruit eating apes.
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Date: 2024-11-30 04:52 pm (UTC)command-F "tomato" not found
Date: 2024-11-30 09:10 pm (UTC)I vividly remember learning that "tomatoes are not vegetables" age six, which served as the start of my annoying pedant career.
Re: command-F "tomato" not found
Date: 2024-12-01 05:26 pm (UTC)Oh dear GOD you or some child like you haunted my Cooking NIGHTMARES.
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Date: 2024-12-01 12:32 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2024-12-01 05:24 pm (UTC)It does, but because of its subtle sweetness it goes well with fruit. Add it to a fruit salad sometime for extra crunch.
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Date: 2024-12-01 04:40 pm (UTC)You could probably swap kumquats for the clementines.
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Date: 2024-12-01 06:15 pm (UTC)Another use I’ve devised for kumquats: grate them (discarding any seeds) into red miso for a bright, salty, tangy, and umami-rich marinade/barbecue sauce; I’ve found it effective on pork, chicken, firm tofu, and eggplant. (Probably not on the short list of things you (
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Date: 2024-12-01 06:38 pm (UTC)Obviously I'll let her say more but actually
acelightning73 really loves and loves learning about East Asian foodways.
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