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I have no resources for the Caucuses or the American Georgia, but there's plenty of info on Georgian-era food in Britain - lots of delicious-sounding options listed here!

The Georgians: What they ate and Food ~ the Glorious Food of the Georgians

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minoanmiss

Those were fun! Stewed ox-cheek, oyster soup, and Sally Lunns would be good dishes to serve, and maybe little glasses of Hysterical Water with the check, hee.

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sovay

The Caucasus

Ilona is a primarily Georgian restaurant! I never managed to eat there, but still look in their menu now and then.

I also wonder if I can get South Georgia in there but the only dish I can think of is roast penguin.

I mean, you can cheat by doing cuisines from the various nations that whaled and sealed there.

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full_metal_ox

I mean, you can cheat by doing cuisines from the various nations that whaled and sealed there.

Sugar and tea and rum constitute a historical and folkloric reference (given a surprise 21st-century revival.)

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minoanmiss

It would be in period to serve a punch, true.

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sovay

It would be in period to serve a punch, true.

The tea would kill me, but I like the look of this one.

(If you need sugar proper, this one looks hilarious.)

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full_metal_ox

Scurvy risk? Not at Pan-Georgia!

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minoanmiss

Green tea and currant jelly sounds AMAZING. (You can't have black tea?)

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sovay

Green tea and currant jelly sounds AMAZING. (You can't have black tea?)

I can't have any kind of tea at all unless it's technically a tisane. Caffeine has given me migraines since adolescence—I have pleasant childhood memories of coffee ice cream and of spoonfuls of coffee diluted with cream and even of beginning to learn to drink tea—and just in case I wasn't avoiding it enough on my own time, I've been medically forbidden it since developing the cerebral thrombosis because I need my blood flow to remain as undisturbed as possible. I had some success in early adulthood trying very small amounts of white tea, but at this point I wouldn't risk it; it's the same reason I don't eat chocolate anymore. I am allowed minor amounts of alcohol and spend it on things like taste-testing Greek wines I've only read about.

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minoanmiss

Caffiene. makes a note That makes a lot of sense.

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acelightning73

<font color ='blueviolet"> "Soon may the Wellerman come, to bring us sugar and tea and rum.." A New Zealand peddler named Weller started sending supply boats to the ocean regions where the whaling ships hunted, and sell them little luxuries that the whalers didn't bring with them. A mug of hot tea with sugar and rum in it would help chase away the chill of working on deck in an ice storm.

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full_metal_ox

And, during COVID quarantine, the Wellerman served as a metaphor for the delivery workers running their asses off to supply not only comfort food but necessities to shut-ins.

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acelightning73

And we're lucky our society has evolved these services. Where I live there's hardly any useful public transportation. I need to take a taxi (or get a ride) to the nearest bus stop, which will bring me to a railroad station. I had a minor stroke a few years ago and I don't feel safe trying to drive.

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minoanmiss

Oh my mouth is watering! What a glorious menu!

As I said to Full Metal Ox, a "sugar and tea and rum" punch would be appropriate.

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acelightning73

When I was a kid, my parents would make punch for adult parties, and it always involved brewing a whole lot of tea, then adding sugar, fruit juice, and liquor. I always wondered about the team but "punch" is a drink that was popular with British colonists in India. It comes from "panchatantra"; which means "five ingredients" in Hindi. Tea, sugar, and fruit juice and booze. It sometimes had some fizzy soda like ginger ale added, in lieu of champagne.

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minoanmiss

and the last ingredient is spice. Because The Spice Must Flow!

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acelightning73

Any comestible that comes from the Indian Subcontinent or any of its neighbors is going to have spices in it.

I remember people made a big deal about "Constant Comment" tea, which had orange peel and cinnamon blended with the tea leaves. I don't even put sugar or lemon in my iced tea - I want it to taste like TEA.

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anna_wing

UK 18th-19th century

https://savoringthepast.net/2014/08/28/18th-and-early-19th-century-cookbooks-digital-searchable-and-free/

Caucasian Georgia

https://georgia.to/cuisine/traditional-dishes/

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minoanmiss

Thank you a lot!

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acelightning73

For Deep South, Georgia peach pie, or pecan pie,or grits and greens. And the Caucasus Georgia has been known for producing good wine since before there was a USSR.

Most people don't consider penguins edible - probably because they eat fish, so their meat tastes fishy (like some other sea birds.

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sabotabby

I ate Georgian (Caucasus) food once and it was amazing. I don't remember what I ate, though, just that it was slightly spicy and tasty as hell.

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princessofgeeks

Wow; that's a hilarious way to point out the strangeness of all those eras/regions having the same name.

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used_songs

American South - based on my experiences as a kid visiting grandparents and aunts and uncles, that's collard greens, mac and cheese, hush puppies or hot water cornbread, peaches, pecans, and what ever fish or meat people had caught (crawdads, squirrel, venison, redfish, etc.). Also chicken or ham/bacon if that's the animals people were raising.

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minoanmiss

Daily Special: whatever Joe Bob The Assistant Head Chef shot out of the trees that morning!

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used_songs

Pretty much. I definitely ate stuff my uncles caught in the woods and for a while we lived on my dad’s catches. :)

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full_metal_ox

Further suggestions: FRIED. CHICKEN. In households, this would be on special occasions such as Sundays, holidays, or when the preacher was paying a visit.

(Cultural Fun Fact: Southern Protestant preachers are stereotyped as having an appetite for fried chicken, as U.S. police are for donuts. This leads me to wonder what other occupational food stereotypes might exist—I believe Mountain Dew is stereotypical Hacker Fuel?)

Meat And Three meal format: a meat entree plus three vegetable and/or starch sides.

In springtime, Vidalia sweet onions—which are a source of such state pride as to be a proprietary product.

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used_songs

Vidalia sweet onions—which are a source of such state pride

With good reasons! That’s good eatin! My dad tells stories of picking up onions that fell off the trucks along the road and having onion sandwiches.

Edited Date: 2024-08-11 12:53 am (UTC)

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full_metal_ox

Roast’em, deep-fry’em, stick’em on a sandwich…

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acelightning73

I knew a woman who was a computer programmer. Her coffee mug said "Programming Fluid".

My husband's cousin used to be a cop in California. He explained that place like donut shops and convenience stores like to encourage police to frequent their establishments. This made it less likely that they'd get robbed.

Fried chicken is always considered a southern black food, and many black preachers must have loved it. In Kris Kristofferson's song "Sunday morning comin' down" he woke up hung over on Sunday morning, and got up and went outside, where the church bells were ringing, and he smells "the Sunday smell of someone frying chicken".

I'm violently allergic to onions, garlic, leeks, scallions, chives and all their relatives.

Edited Date: 2024-08-11 07:15 pm (UTC)

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full_metal_ox

Fried chicken is always considered a southern black food, and many black preachers must have loved it.

Although it was African-Americans who perfected fried chicken in the U.S., the dish is loved throughout practically all Southern demographics; the specific association of fried chicken with Black people is a trope of Yankee (1) origin that arose during the Great Migration northwards, as Black people sought their fortunes and brought their cultures north of the Mason-Dixon Line.

Anecdata (including a lot of food-pornographic paeans to the commenters’ regional cookery) here; warning for accounts of racism: https://fanficrants.livejournal.com/10641442.html

(1) In the sense of “Northern (Union-state) U.S.”, as distinct from “New Englander” (which is what business names like “Yankee Candle” are seeking to evoke) or Americans in general (from the standpoint of other countries).

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acelightning73

Well, there's Korean fried chicken and Japanese fried chicken, so enjoying such a tasty kind of protein appeals to everyone around the world. I do seem to remember something about a black cook in the historical North inventing it and seeing how popular it became, and bringing the recipe to the South when he moved back home.

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acelightning73

My cultural background is from the Boston area, although I was born in New York City and raised within sight of the skyline. (To anyone from the South, a New Yorker is a DAMNYANKEE.)

The stereotype we Northerners think of is "all Black people love fried chicken and watermelon". I know a black musician who's allergic to watermelon. But it's just as inaccurate as any other stereotype. And the fact that other cultures have developed their own versions of fried chicken proves that it's about as universal a concept as cooking. It also proves that the fairly neutral flavor of chicken can serve as a background for almost any flavor combinations.

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minoanmiss

I'm glad I don't have to live on hunting but I admit I wish someone would hand me a (skinned, dressed) creature and challenge me to cook it. It would be a fun challenge.

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acelightning73

Just buy a chicken and kosher it.

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minoanmiss

oh I did that, at least as much as I am qualified to do.

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full_metal_ox

According to your profile, you live in a coastal state; your adventure with oysters suggests that a fishmonger’s might be a useful prospect.

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minoanmiss

I was about to say I cook fish all the time, but there are a lot of things I haven't cooked, so maybe I will pop down by the fishmonger's and see what I can find.

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full_metal_ox

Asian groceries also carry chickens and ducks complete with the head and feet, and sometimes I’ve seen quail and squab if you want something less familiar; that’s another avenue you might consider.

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acelightning73

They also sell the black-feathered, black-skinned, black-boned Chinese chickens, which are supposed to confer good health and long life on the person who eats the meat. They're absurdly expensive.

Edited Date: 2024-08-12 03:54 am (UTC)

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minoanmiss

My roommate bought me a pair of those for my birthday. :)

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full_metal_ox

So how were they, from both a flavor and health-giving standpoint?

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minoanmiss

Delicious! They had a "darker" flavor than regular chicken. And it made an exceptional soup.

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acelightning73

I wondered what it tasted like. I don't suppose it would cure all my medical malfunctions, and I wonder if I can stand the taste of it. (I find duck unpalatable.) Not that I can afford a black chicken - it costs more per pound than prime beef.

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minoanmiss

We discussed this and based on my description you realized you wouldn't like it for the same reasons you don't like dark meat.

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acelightning73

The only person I've ever met who had obvious healing powers drowned shortly after he moved to Florida. So I've got to find some other instantaneous, effortless-on-my-part healing. I've just been singing the invocation to Kwan Yin a lot.

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minoanmiss

I Love our local Asian markets. I have had black chickens and squab and quail and duck is my favorite meat to both cook and to eat. I want an excuse to buy a goose.

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acelightning73

"Christmas is coming, the goose is getting fat..." Or you could have a Michaelmas (29 September, close to the Autumnal Equinox) Goose. You just need to invite enough dinner guests to eat that much goose.

Pretty much any holiday=type feast where modern Americans would cook a turkey were celebrated with a goose back in the day (Victorian to Colonial, on back to Medieval). A turkey serves as many feasters as does a goose or a swan. And commercial turkey raising has made the tasty birds readily available to most Americans. And most Americans would be more likely to want to eat turkey - we're not all raised in cultures that eat cartoon waterfowl. (The only birds I'd ever seen prepared as food were turkey and chicken.) Which is why I had no fucking idea what to do with the half-cooked duck when my mother-in-law showed up on my doorstep with it.

I do like the white meat of Cornish hens, and they make such a nice presentation.Cornish hens stuffed with wild rice, and glazed with something tangy and sweet. And a colorfully weird side vegetable, like a whole tiny squash or pumpkin filled with something like a vegetable medley.

I will gratefully eat turkey breast meat, roasted with as few seasonings as possible (there's always onion somewhere in the mix), no gravy, and homemade dinner rolls. I'll eat it off a plate, or in a sandwich with some nice crusty bread. I'm so glad the Wampanoag taught my ancestors what to hunt!

Edited Date: 2024-08-13 08:59 pm (UTC)

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magid

There's always <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Martin%27s_Day>St. Martin's Day</a>.... (Which I know about only because of a kid book from the mid-20th century, <i>Blue Mystery</i>, which I really liked.

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rabidsamfan

https://travelfoodatlas.com/georgian-food

Looks tasty!

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