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It's too hot to cook so let me discuss an as-yet theoretical dish instead. Content advisory: This post discusses organ meat prep and consumption.

A common expression on Tumblr is "kung pow penis" and it occured to me the other day that the dish could be made.

Bull's pizzle is perfectly edible. When I was fourteen I asked my mother what the tubular gelatinous meat in her soup was, since it wasn't a kind of sausage. She gleefully informed me that it was bull's pizzle, and watched me run around screaming, because I was fourteen.

I'm not fourteen anymore, and I fondly remember the chew of that mysterious semicircular meat. Meanwhile, it seems that almost any protein can be given the Kung pao treatment. Almost all the recipes I've read for kung pao chicken, beef, tofu, pork, etc, are pretty similar. I've seen kung pao venison and shrimp and scallop recipes. However, am I right that these recipes are all so similar? I'm not Chinese -- what I know of Chinese cooking is by casual study. Can I really develop a fitting recipe?

Meanwhile, preparing bull's pizzle is not for the fainthearted. Of course once I stopped freaking out I asked my mother to show me how to cook it, and it was a nice moment in an otherwise fraught relationship. The pizzle has to be washed, the internal membrane peeled away, washed again, then stewed gently for about 2 hours. I will have to include a note warning anyone making this that they must commit to the bit.

So, as WD shakes his head over my madness, what do you think? Should I develop this recipe?

Poll #29322 Kung Pao Penis
This poll is anonymous.
Open to: Registered Users, detailed results viewable to: All, participants: 24

Should I develop this recipe?

View Answers

Yes, it could be tasty
11 (45.8%)

Yes, it would be interesting and creative
18 (75.0%)

Yes it would be funny
11 (45.8%)

No, it would be disgusting
0 (0.0%)

No, you probably don't know enough about Chinese cuisine yet
0 (0.0%)

No, and what is wrong with you?
1 (4.2%)

Date: 2023-06-27 01:35 am (UTC)
lemonsharks: (Default)
From: [personal profile] lemonsharks
Yes but watch some more chinese cooking demystified on YouTube first and remember how spicy you like things

Also oh god that was the round thing in the soup I'm going to go take a moment to ... Process that . . . Knowledge

Date: 2023-06-27 03:03 am (UTC)
kore: (Default)
From: [personal profile] kore
*cackles with glee and sets out to find a pizzle and a new pot*

Now THAT sounds like a neat fairytale quest

Date: 2023-06-27 04:29 am (UTC)
amaebi: black fox (Default)
From: [personal profile] amaebi
I feel that I should tell you that I, personally, am puritanical about kung pao and opposed to the addition of vegetables, which mess up the peanut crispness and are, to me, otiose at best. I am protein, peanuts, (oodles of whole flattened clove) garlic, chili peppers, and sauce combo only.

Of course, it’s not my bull puzzle.

Date: 2023-06-27 04:34 am (UTC)
amaebi: black fox (Default)
From: [personal profile] amaebi
BTW and FWIW I think that the chewiness of the pizzle would be novel but likely enjoyable in the dish.

Date: 2023-06-27 02:59 pm (UTC)
anagramofbrat: (Default)
From: [personal profile] anagramofbrat
I often joke I am the most tender-mouthed Jamaican.

Ayyyy, Guyanese descent over here. And I have the spice tolerance of a Minnesota toddler, much to the consternation of my (white) husband and probably several generations of tooth-sucking Aunties. So I probably got you beat. :D

Also just repeated use of "pizzle" in the entry and in the comments is absolutely sending me right now, but I needed the giggle so thanks for that.

Date: 2023-06-28 02:28 am (UTC)
anagramofbrat: (Default)
From: [personal profile] anagramofbrat
lol yep. Mine cannot shovel enough cookup rice and Guyanese pepper sauce into his face, which considering my dad used to use the latter to haze his daughter's boyfriends means they got on splendidly lol

Date: 2023-06-27 01:50 am (UTC)
dine: (hedgeflower)
From: [personal profile] dine
since we raised & butcher cattle, my family ate lots of organ meats, though I don't know that we ever had pizzle; I do have vivid memories when I was 5 or 6 of mom casually skinning a tongue, that was enough to gross out kid!me

Date: 2023-06-27 06:07 am (UTC)
dine: (chef bork bork - misbegotten)
From: [personal profile] dine
yeah, tongue is good. I think it was the process of peeling the membrane with the taste buds etc., off of it - that's what grossed out little kid me

I think sometimes having some distance from its original state helps (though it also allows people to get even weirder about their food)

Date: 2023-06-27 01:57 am (UTC)
julian: Picture of the sign for Julian Street. (Default)
From: [personal profile] julian
Huh. I've had tongue, and ball bits (in something Spanish I don't recall the name of), and tail, but not pizzazzle. I think the texture contrast (I mean, of peanuts and veggies) would work rilly well.
Edited Date: 2023-06-27 01:57 am (UTC)

Date: 2023-06-27 03:01 am (UTC)
kore: (Default)
From: [personal profile] kore
....I just woke up from a horrible long nap and so for a hot second I thought this was going to be a review of an interesting kind of martial arts movie!

Date: 2023-06-27 03:29 am (UTC)
adrian_turtle: (Default)
From: [personal profile] adrian_turtle
it seems like any protein can be given the kung pao treatment

I'm dubious. My perception is that the kung pao treatment is best suited for tender foods. You're describing something very tough and chewy even after long stewing. I suspect it would work better in a different kind of dish, like red-cooked beef.

Date: 2023-06-27 03:35 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] acelightning73
Yes - like beef tendon. Or one might steam or boil it to make it more tender, then cut it into peanut-size morsels for kung bo.

Date: 2023-06-27 04:00 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] acelightning73
There's usually a lot of garlic in kung bo dishes (I leave it out, just enjoying the ginger and hot pepper and peanuts. Just boil it until it goes soft, and do as you will.

Date: 2023-06-27 03:31 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] acelightning73
In one of Fuchsia Dunlop's books, she rhapsodizes about "hot pot", and she's in a hot pot restaurant, and a group of laborers is just tucking into ox-whip (pizzle) hot pot, as if anticipating a night of erotic adventure. Kung bo is one of my favorite CHinese styles - spicy and flavorful, with the earthy crunch of the peanuts for contrast. I don't know what ox penis tastes like - probably too cartilagenous and gristle-y for my tastes. But kung bo beef and pork exist, so it's just a matter of preparing the meat the way it needs to be prepared for this dish.

Date: 2023-06-27 05:15 am (UTC)
sovay: (Haruspex: Autumn War)
From: [personal profile] sovay
The pizzle has to be washed, the internal membrane peeled away, washed again, then stewed gently for about 2 hours.

That doesn't sound more complicated than the preparation of tongue. I don't know enough about kung pao to vote responsibly on the rest of it, except that I feel that incarnating a colorful expression as an edible dish is always worth trying.

Date: 2023-06-27 07:12 pm (UTC)
sovay: (Morell: quizzical)
From: [personal profile] sovay
And being conservative about what they're willing to do often overlaps with being judgemental about what others are willing to do. So I want to warn people as thoroughly as I can.

Fair enough! I can also see it being prohibitively time-consuming for people no matter how open-minded about meat prep.

(it featured whole raw kidneys and raw curry powder under an ordinary pie crust, and I, being a young teenager, also didn't know how to cook well enough to critique the recipe. hilarity ensued.)

Oh, my God.

My mother once inherited an inedible challah recipe. I may have told this story. It was memorable not only because we couldn't eat it, but because when we took the remains to the reservoir to feed them to the ducks, the remains sank and the ducks fled in horror.

Date: 2023-06-27 05:42 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] rachelkg
I'm into the idea, both culinarily and for the meme. I suspect Sam would be entertained and curious but not eat much of it.

Date: 2023-06-27 06:43 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] anna_wing
I think this is the dish that I knew in my childhood just as Szechuan chicken, though it used cashew-nuts instead of peanuts. I don't think using pizzle would be disgusting, but it does sound like a lot of trouble. Perhaps using the same seasonings, but for a braise, instead of a stir-fry might be a way to do it, if the meat has to be stewed anyway.

Date: 2023-06-27 02:56 pm (UTC)
anagramofbrat: (Default)
From: [personal profile] anagramofbrat
there is no option in the poll for *laughing hysterically*

Date: 2023-06-27 05:23 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] cmcmck
Willies! :o)

Date: 2023-06-27 11:38 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] acelightning73
What in the name of all the gods of capsaicin does "Kung pao penis" mean?

Date: 2023-06-28 05:44 am (UTC)
ceo: (Default)
From: [personal profile] ceo

Kung Pao Penis absolutely screams to be a band name in some ridiculous Asian punk genre that I am far too old and uncool to conceive of. I'll also note that you are scheduled to dine with us this Saturday and have asked what you should bring. I'm not entirely sure whether to forbid you to bring this dish or, er, kind of encourage it.

Date: 2023-06-30 05:30 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] acelightning73
Give the nice man some good rice and beans. Or some curry goat.

Date: 2023-06-30 05:28 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] acelightning73
I don't follow J-pop (except for Baby Metal) and/or K-pop. Back in IRC chat days, some AUstralian friends of mine would play "Band name- Mine!" for a clever phrase. "William Shatner's Hairpiece" and "Sauerkraut from Hell" (a nickname for Kimchi) were popular.